Sunday, May 20, 2018

[Hisone to Masotan] Episode 6 everyone's impressions


Episode 6
"I will call your name"
























































RIP Nao-san.


Did they all see Hoshino's memory in their dream or did I misunderstand?

We have finally learned F-2's name. It is Norma!

How could they withheld such vital information!?




≫How could they withheld such vital information!?

Her Joies are so legendary, he'd kill for a Kiwi Joie.
Incidentally, why do you think there aren't that many OTF pilots or dragons? They robbed him of his precious Joa...





≫Did they all see Hoshino's memory in their dream or did I misunderstand?

I'm pretty sure they only saw the part with the old planes.





Fun name derivation too:
F-2 -> Efu-tsuu > Futsuu > Normal > Norma












So the old Joie lady is probably some expert OTF pilot, huh? Neat.
Also, Norma best girl.



Probably the one flying that old Prop Plane in their Shared dream












My only suspension of disbelief is having the F-15J, F-2A, C-1 and E-2C flying in formation, at the same speed, and with jet contrails.

Other than that, a great HisoMaso episode!



They are dragons, not actual aircraft, anyway.












Really liked this episode! The quirky voice acting and animation continues to make this show. As does the mysterious dairy lady.. and of course, the flying scenes with the dragons. The drama is okay, nothing special, and completely and quite intentionally overshadowed by the comedy - although I did feel for Hoshino's struggle to become a jet pilot. Took her long enough to get over getting a friggin' dragon to ride instead, though. I get the feeling Norma could outmaneuver a normal F-2 any day (and we'll probably see this happen soon - we need a revenge match against the annoying guy).

R.I.P. best comedic duo


Haven't chuckled this hard in a faux-emotional scene before. Nao-san!!


I am ashamed it took me all the way 'til Ep 3 to identify the daiy lady as a legendary D-Pi. Although that could still turn out to be a red herring..












I kinda preferred Ken-san over Norma.
Aquires lock-on
"Omae wa mou shindeiru"












That was a beautiful episode. Quite possibly my favourite episode of the series so far and my favourite from this week too. Looks like the plot will start to kick off too!












Never expected an appearance by WWII planes: Mitsubishi A6M3 Zero and Mitsubishi Ki-46.



Some background story on Hoshino this week to finally explain her drive and motivation for becoming a pilot, and I'm glad she reconciled with F-2/Norma before her egotism got on my nerves even more. I wonder if Nao will ever get her own OTF?



That was an interesting read (wiki article)...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Ki-46












Why is Hoshino not a F-2 pilot again? Who has decide that she should be a dragon pilot ?



As far as I understand it, the dragons pick their pilots and no one can overrule their decisión





She got picked by the aptitude test, then by the dragon. Given how hard a time they have finding D-pilots they sure as hell were not going to let her off. Only other choice she had was probably leave the military.












I love Norma's dragon form. He just looks so cool and menacing.

Also Hoshiino finally showing her dere side. <3

And of course the Joie lady is important to the plot. And like everyone's guess, she's probably the same OTF pilot they saw in their dream.












I loved this episode. Hoshino's entire storyline, especially her rant/venting to the other three pilots after she woke up really resonated with me personally.

The rampant sexism showcased by the male pilots towards the D-pilots has always really grated on me (yes, I know it's meant to, and yes, I know the show isn't framing it as "good," quite the opposite actually) but here it perfectly framed Hoshino's struggles. Her anguish at the fact that she tried so hard to be the best fighter pilot only to be chosen by her dragon — thereby forced into a position where she can't simply out-work or out-train her way to being respected by her male peers — was all the more potent because we've already seen how Hisone and other D-pilots are treated.












So glad we're finally done with Hoshino arc. Don't think I could stand one more episode of her goddamn angst and egoism.












So how come they could suddenly fly at the end? It was never explained why they couldn't in the first place either?



As far as I understood it, the OTFs just didn't feel like leaving.



Hmm.. I got the impression it was something supernatural from the way the officers spoke about it in the previous episode.



I agree there seems to be another underlying reason too; I believe something was said about a ritual or process being completed before they flew off as well.












Why does it seem like i'm constantly on the verge of tears watching this show? It's so good.












Guess I'll have to be the dissent voice in the thread.

For me, this show is losing steam quite quickly. I found it more fun when it was only Hisone & Nao, where at least Nao's tsundere stance showed some fortitude. I was expecting that the new girls would have their flaws, but wasn't expecting them to be so downright broken that they can't support each other and come up with a solution quickly.


Most of the time, episodes with carácter growth show the root of fears of the character taking the spotlight, along with the character finding his/her resolve to come out of her denial state. But I personally didn't feel the connection between Hoshino's long story of becoming a pilot to just acting like a spoiled child because her chosen aircraft was a dragon. Her inner fight felt so hamfisted and solved in a deus ex machina way.


It wasn't adressed either why did the dragons refuse to leave the island in the first place, and now that Norma and Hoshino made their peace and a slab stone moved an inch, they feel the sudden urge to take flight once again.


Some of the jokes aren't landing for me, like Hisone licking the dragons (I'm like, wtf, is that supposed to be funny?) or Nao's head replica.

I'll give it a few more episodes to see if the story finds it's way to what it made it enjoyable in the first episodes.



≫But I personally didn't feel the connection between Hoshino's long story of becoming a pilot to just acting like a spoiled child because her chosen aircraft was a dragon.

I really don't see how Hoshino is acting like a "spoiled child" or how her inner fight was "hamfisted". I think the show made it pretty clear in the last 3 episodes why she is so unhappy about the situation. She wanted to prove that she (as a woman) can become a real fighter pilot in a male dominated environment, so it was a huge downgrade for her, when she had to pilot a "pet" dragon in an all-female team.

Her "change of heart" wasn't a deux ex machina, it was just a little bit too quick. The dragon saved her, so she saved his life by letting him act as a dragon, not just as a jet.





≫I really don't see how Hoshino is acting like a "spoiled child" or how her inner fight was "hamfisted". I think the show made it pretty clear in the last 3 episodes why she is so unhappy about the situation.

She's unhappy with the situation. So what? life is hard for everyone. When life gives you lemons you make a lemonade. You don't b*tch and moan at your peers that are trying to help you, just because you're unhappy how life was handed to you. That my friend is exactly what's called "acting like a spoiled child"


≫Her "change of heart" wasn't a deux ex machina, it was just a little bit too quick. The dragon saved her, so she saved his life by letting him act as a dragon, not just as a jet.

When a writer creates a roadbloack for the main characters to overcome it by themselves and they suceed on their own, that's good writing.

When the roadbloack is solved by an external element without the main characters even lifting a finger, that's a deus ex. Hoshino didn't do anything to overcome her inner struggle, you said it yourself, her dragon stepped up for her, something he or she (whatever Norma's gender is) could have done way back, instead of both acting tsundere to each other. But no, all this development had to be triggered by a dumb accident.












Pretty obvious that the Joie lady was something important. Pretty weird that some lady selling snacks in the middle of an air base. If anything she's like some dragon shaman lady that knows the deepest secrets of the OTF's.












This episode was fucking beautiful.
I cried.












Source〈https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/8klna6/spoilers_hisone_to_masotan_episode_6_discussion/〉

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