Saturday, May 12, 2018

[Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu: Die Neue These - Kaikou] Episode 6 everyone's impressions [Legend of the Galactic Heroes]

 
Episode 6
"The Capture of Iserlohn (Part One)"










































The Thor Hammer was every bit as powerful and magnificent as I expected it to be! I also love the warp effect in this version.

Another good episode. I'm not even hesitant about this remake anymore. It's been every bit as good as I hoped it would be.



I just hope that we can make it through and have a complete adaption of the entire novel, I think some of the strongest parts of LoGH is near then end. Still we’ve got plenty to look forward to.



I hope so as well. This is the average part in the OVA series IMO. The best part of LoGH isn't the space battles, but the political aspect of it and the contrast between the two different polities as well as the political issues going on in both the Empire and the FPA. Not to mention the large amount of characters who have very different, interesting, and complex beliefs.





≫Another good episode. I'm not even hesitant about this remake anymore. It's been every bit as good as I hoped it would be

I can't believe I doubted this remake on the basis on the character designs. They've been adapting this so well



A lot of people did. Also the somewhat underwhelming first PV in which in particular Yang looked weirdly out of character. I had better expectations than most cause Prod IG is one of the best studios in the business, but the final product has exceeded even my optimistic expectations.











I think I still prefer OVA Schoenkopf, but his intro in this one was great, and they definitely nailed how sexy cocky he's supposed to be.



I think all of the OVA character designs are better but this one was at least passable. I hope they can at least nail his attitude going forward. Gotta say, I'm not sure why they completely changed so many character designs. From this episode alone, Murai looks absolutely nothing like his OVA counterpart. In general, it looks like they are aging down a lot of the Alliance figures which is a bit puzzling to me.



They didn't change character designs because they are making their own for their own series. It isn't related to the OVA. There's no reason for Murai to look like he does in the OVA or in the new series beyond what is in the novel. A lot of the characters do look younger than their OVA counterparts, but still look fine in regards to their age/description in the novels.











Wow.... Iserlohn looks good. those floating gun turrets and the Thor Hammer look amazing. Also, Hyperion is really cool and I’m glad we got to see the warp effect. Also go Frederica Greenhill being badass. Really likes this episode, hyped for next week. Still no dusty tho, :(.



I remember the first time reading "Iserlohn Fortress" in the original series and was like "What the fuck, I live right next to that city!". I don't know where else they'd take that name, so I am always thinking of that old anime using the name of a city nearby that isn't a huge one like Berlin.



The whole thing is very well thought out, one of the major battles is Amlitzer, or Amritsar as someone explained on this sub. Which is a religious city in Punjab, India. Have never seen a show use such random places in their stories, its pretty amazing











Jesus no wonder this was an impossible mission. That laser could easily wipe out Yang's already weak force with just a single shot. Also was that Walter in disguise at the end? I'm guessing that their plan is to commandeer that laser to use it against the Empire's massive fleet?

Also Frederica is a cutie and a fucking badass. Was that Endou Aya or Hikasa Yoko voicing her? I always get their voices confused.



Don't wanna spoil anything important, so I'll try and explain it in the best way I can. Iserlohn is a highly strategical fortress as it's the only safe navigational route between the Empire and the Alliance. The Empire built it there because of that and the Alliance has been attempting to capture it ever since purely because of that. The Alliance has failed miserably at every attempt because of the Thor Hammer, which could easily decimate entire fleets in one shot.



Basically think of a fort in the middle of a mountanious terrain that has one path. The mountains are death so the only path is through Iserlohn.

Despite being a space show, this is very much a 2D obstacle in space lol



That comparison doesn’t really make sense though. There is no bypassing mountains but they are literally in space. A massive void of nothingness. Why not go around it to get to the Empire’s planet?



You better get used to that real fast. There are things that make in sense in 2D but not in 3D in the series and it's hella prevalent

Also the reasoning is that there's a bunch of dangerous bullshit around the place that prevents space travel











Definitely prefer OVA Schenkopp as far as design goes. Oh well, he's such a great character that it won't matter too terribly much. I prefer the older, dashing, seasoned look though he had going for him.

I was not a fan of Yang's redesign either, and I already am accustomed to it at this point, so clearly it isn't grounds for much of a complaint.

This re-adaptation continually impresses me with how well they are handling most of it. I went in watching it just because it was LotGH and the OVA is among my absolute favorite anime so I had to at least give it a go, but I was expecting it to be average at best. Truthfully, a dark part of me kind of just hoped it would be bad so I could write it off quicker. At this point though, I really do hope they manage a full adaptation.



I also don't like Schenkopp's, its the one I least like in this show. Yang always had kind of a bland design so I don't really mind.



I would agree it is probably my least favorite as of now. With Yang I mostly didn't like the redesign just from familiarity with the old one, but with Schenkopp I don't feel like that's really the case, so I might not warm up to it as quickly.

For that matter Frederica is completely different looking, but I don't really mind. I like her old character design and it fit with the show and the time it was made, but it would be out of place in the new one I think. She's a little too moe looking, but it fits with the other designs in a general sense so it doesn't bother me a whole lot.











I can never stop reading Admiral Shithole..



I actually thought Yang was mocking him when he said "Sithole", I had to pause and give it some thought before accepting it was his real name.











The only (slight) complaint I have is that they didn't contextualize Iserlohn enough to show the impossible nature of Yang's task - this is the FPA's 7th attempt at Iserlohn, which always ended in disasters; in the 5th and 6th attempts FPA brought in 3 full fleets each time and suffered massive casualties, and Yang will have to take a stab at it with half of a fleet composed of battle survivers and new recruites.

Imagine as a survivor of the 4th or 6th fleet, short of mutiny or desertion, Yang's fame is probably the only thing one could count on in this shitty situation.



I mean I guess they didn't really need to emphasize the impossible nature of it due to showing the big fuck off laser.
Would have liked to say what number this attempt was, maybe they'll say it next episode





So why would the FPA send Yang this mission if it’s supposedly Impossible?



This also something I have been thinking about. From a logical point of view, the only reason why you would want to send Yang with half a fleet is that you want to get rid of him. Expecting him to succeed when others haven't seems, ignoring that he is the main character, pretty unreasonable. While there are other points to be made I wont mention them due to the risk of spoilers for any first time watchers.



Job Trunicht and Admiral Sithole reached a tacit agreement to let Yang try with bare minimal resources. For Admiral Sithole - he faces re-election in 70 days and desprately needs some victory, so he is gambling his political future on Yang who he trusted since his days as Yang's headmaster. The half fleet is all he can get for Yang at this point, but offered him some latitude to pick and choose talents.
 
As for Trunicht, it doesn't matter how it turns out. If Yang wins, he claims major credit as the Chairman of Defense, if Yang loses (and luckily survives), his hero status expires and Trunicht can easily rid of an insubordinate pacifist. The half a million soldiers sent on this mission is just collateral damage.

Yang is obviously not fond of this task but accepted it because 1. he still respects Sithole, and think keeping him in place would help prevent Trunicht from monopolizing the military. 2. he has a plan to do the job for a long time (he was involved in the 5th and 6th Iserlohn Conquest as junior officers and knew first hand it can't be done with brute force). 3. As pointed out in this episode, he wants Julian to grow up in peace time.











Frederica's a QT pie, but Schonkopf looks way too young for a man in his late 30s.
Dammit Yang. Don't raise the flag.



Schenkopp is 32 at this point of the story. The OVA made him look older than he should be.












I was half expecting Yang's new assistant was going to be Julian. Didn't expect to see the girl from El Facil to return. Also was surprised to see Oberstein pop up here.

Geez, that is one big laser. How is Yang supposed to take half a fleet to try to take a fortress that is packing that kind of weaponry? That weapon seems like it is capable of amassing casualties of entire wars by itself.

Also the Rossen Ritter insignia ia really cool.



The show didn't stress the impossible nature of Yang's task enough - it's the 7th attempt by the FPA, each of the previous attempts they brought in 3 fleets or more but ended up with massive casualties. The Thor's Hammer at the fortress is capable of destroying half a fleet in one shot.



Why did they send him in the mission if it is deemed impossible? Also, is it explained in the Novel why the FPA don’t just build their own super weapon?



Answered you about the FPA part under a separate post. As for Yang's mission - Job Trunicht and Admiral Sithole reached a tacit agreement to let him try with bare minimal resources. For Admiral Sithole - he faces re-election in 70 days and desprately needs some victory, so he is gambling his political future on Yang who trusts since his days as Yang's headmaster. The half fleet is all he can get for Yang at this point, but offered him some latitude to pick and choose talents.

As for Trunicht, it doesn't matter how it turns out. If Yang wins, he claims major credit as the Chairman of Defense, if Yang loses (and luckily survives, his hero status expires and Trunicht can easily rid of a insubordinate pacifist. The half a million soldiers sent on this mission is just collateral damage.












Just wanted to say that I'm impressed with the amount of character designs the show gives. Even little side one-off characters, like the FPA officers that were rebuked by the admiral get fairly distinct designs. Looking forward to the next episode!











Well Fredrica seems as cool as I could have asked for :)
Really hoping their plan works out, love seeing a plan come into action!











The ego of some of the veteran admirals sometimes boggles me. Frederica looks adorable. Didn't remember that Oberstein was stationed at Iserlohn at some point. Good Episode.











New watcher here. I know there's 12 episodes for this season and a movie trilogy serving as basically the second season next year, but how many more seasons/movies after that would be needed to cover the rest of the story? I seriously hope there will be more. I'm really getting into this series!











Man, this show keeps getting better and better! Can't wait for next week's episode!











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