Tuesday, April 24, 2018

[Caligula] Episode 3 impressions

 
Episode 3
"Why do we live? The further we pursue the meaning of life, the more confused we become."














































That whole tea party was hilariously absurd. I loved Mifue's dreamy-cute smile and you have to respect SweetP's attitude.
 

I feel kinda dumb for not realizing that blogger girl hadn't broken the illusion yet, but now I get why she was so casual at the party. I think she'll be a nice addition to the group with her observation skills.

When mu trailed off while talking to Ritsu my mind immediately filled it in with "Wa-ta-shi?"...









Guns & Bouquets, my favorite band.


I like their song Paradise Village


Hell yeah. Welcome to the Forest is my jam










I'm still on the fence with this one. Hopefully we will get some explanations in the next episode. I do like the fact that the MC at least tried to make sense of it all before looking for help.


So far, characters are behaving in ways that make sense to me for the most part. The shot compositions are really interesting. Animation is pretty good. The people writing this seem to know what they’re doing or really give a shit.

All in all; it feels like I’m watching something that’s teetering on the edge of disaster, but just barely avoids it each episode.










Honestly, the direction of this episode - and this show in general - has so been so in the deep end of artsy that is' been making me wonder if it'll tie it together and work. But it has.

I'm really impressed that the pretentiousness of this anime hasn't felt shallow - it makes sense!

This was a great and very, very, very unsettling episode. I loved the resolution.


That's why I was super excited for this--the director did SukaSuka last year, which was excellent, and some of those tricks are back in here.










That tea party was the most painful thing, concocted by a madman with only the most utter contempt for humanity.

This concept is pretty cool actually, less the Matrix and more Robert Nozick's Experience Machine, a thought experiment where you are presented with an artificial world where all you experience is joy, and you are given a choice to enter it or not.

You're supposed to say 'no I want my experience to be real, all the good and all the bad' and it was intended as a thesis against Hedonism. In that the Hedonistic ideal is that the ultimate goal of life is the pursuit of pleasure, and this was also the thoughts of thinkers like Mill and seemed to be a pretty done deal in the minds of a lot of Western thinkers in general. But if you reject the Experience Machine, you admit to life being more than the pursuit of pleasure, which is the ultimate divide between our protagonists and the musicians, as we learn that one of the musicians rejected their reality because they were ostracized and they freely endorse and engage in the hedonistic pursuit of pleasure as shown by the grotesque eating scenes.

And it stands to reason that the protagonists were either forced into Mobius or had rejected society at some point in the past for whatever reason, likely related to their insecurities (fat hate, obsessive gossiping or a fixation with quoting famous thinkers and annoying their friends with it) and an interesting idea could be how they come to terms with the latter possibility, since a great way to approach this would be to suggest why people may prefer an experience machine over reality, or what aspects of reality are not worth experiencing in spite of the alternative being supposedly pure artifice. Since the ideology of the show rejects the experience machine, the job now is to say why should we deal with life, as opposed to accepting the artifice.










God I wish I was a cute anime girl too

Next episode looks like we'll finally get an explaination

So mu is a Jackass Genie? Poor girl, imagine erasing your mom just because you want to have dinner with her. Her snapping was very funny as well.


Pretty sure µ doesn't understand she even did anything wrong. She's a naive AI.










Wow that "Tea Party" was creepy as fuck. I really wonder what an awakened person saw through all that. I actually though SweetP's plan of attack was pretty effective. Well, until she completely self destructed and ruined everything as soon as she(he?) came under fire a tiny little bit lol. I mean Himawari almost folded then and there.


Now that I think, I'm not sure what was SweetP's goal with that. Convince Mifue to stay in the Matr..Mobius? How rubbing in her sins will do that?


She was almost there. "You can forget everything and be happy again. Here, take this blue pill."


My take was that it was an attempt to get her to give up on finding the truth about Mobius. They seem to want to keep the status quo and have everyone content in looping Highschool mindlessly. It did look like Mifue was starting to give up on looking for her mom.









This episode went by quick. Still going "what the fuck is happening" but we have nearly all of the Musicians apparently. Hoping for more insight next episode but the tea party scene was hilarious









Interesting, the Ostinato Musicians claimed the first guy was beaten, so so the previous episode was meant to cover the first boss and this covered the second. Since Shikishima didn't even get his powers yet I assumed they were just padding out the prologue, but they rearranged things so that he doesn't have to be at the centre of everything. Although they might have a proper confrontation with the first boss later, it feels more like he was skipped.

If I was fat I'd hate Mifue too (and probably want to become a cute girl) so I can't even fault Sweet-P for being an asshole to her (regardless of Mifue's obvious issues). I can fault the Ostinato Musicians for acting like the "Rogues" are rejecting a world they'd be happy in when it was all started by them getting attacked by their classmates turning into monsters, though.

Poor Mu, she's doing her best to make everyone happy but thinks that the best way to do that is to give them what the ask for.









So they really are in a Matrix-like world huh? Mobius is their version of the Matrix and the Ostinato Musicians are the Agents of the system?

I might stick with this show for one more episode. I'm really curious and it looks like we're FINALLY getting an explanation next week.


≫So they really are in a Matrix-like world huh?
Matrix-like city anyway. Kind of a cross between the Matrix and 13th Floor.









With how gaunt the girl's mom was, I have no clue why being told she hates fat people would cause a mental breakdown. Her mom isn't fat.


Maybe that's why? Her mom is unhealthily slim, won't eat, probably has an eating disorder or two, and then she sees all these fat people who keep eating and gaining weight like it's nothing

Could be linked to something else as well. We don't know how she is outside of Möbius, and she came there for a reason


I haven't thought it that way. I was thinking her true mother is neither the anorexic one nor the pretty one, but a third, fat, woman.

Possible theory: Girl changes fat mom for slim one (at the start of her time in Mobius), was happy for a while but some day she thinks it was too much, so μ innocently changes it for a 3th mom, that sudden change made girl snap.


I'd agree with that theory, but then why would Mifue be in Mobius and not her mother? If all she did was hate fat people because her mother was anorexic, then she wouldn't have a reason for being in the machine.

My guess is that Mifue herself was anorexic, brought on by her real mother being severely overweight and the social stigma of it all getting to her. When brought into Mobius she probably wished for two things; for her mother to not be overweight, and for her to stay a healthy weight no matter what. I say this because her simulation mother was, obviously, severely anorexic; and because she herself could, "eat whatever she wanted and not gain weight" as her simulation mom pointed out.

Everything else plays out as you said: Mifue gets sick of seeing her simulation mother in the state that she's in, which prompts Muse into going to check up on her to see if there was anything she could do. Mifue offhandedly remarks on being able to enjoy a meal with her "mom", Muse like the dimwit she is, replaces simulation mom with someone else, resulting in Mifue snapping out of her dream.









This show is weirdly good, as in it is extremely weird but pulls you in with that weirdness. I do really like the music though.

As for the plot in general, and the whole wish thing, all my mind is coming up with is how to completely fuck up the system of wishes. Assuming I can't ask for the powers to control the world, I could ask for something to completely break it instead. Ever seen a computer program run too many things at the same time? Well, assuming you know, I can just ask for like a trillion entities or for the world to incorporate atoms and quarks. That in itself would hopefully be to much for the system to handle. Also, what if my wish was to have μ as my waifu or something? How the hell would the system comprehend that?

Well, I'm overthinking it so I'll shut up for now. It's a interesting show though, to say the least.









Tell me if I I sound crazy, but is SweetP supposed to be a reference to how a lot of Vocaloid composers have P at the end of their names, like CrusherP? Cause if so, that’s a cool nod, considering that they’re working with the whole virtual idol thing.


Yes. I've read from somewhere that characters in the game (source material) have a corresponding vocaloid producer, and I think the songs are probably composed by them. (Peter Pan Syndrome at the end of the first episode was composed by 40mP).










My best guess is that Mobius was created to house patients who exhibited extreme psychological disorders that went on to the point that they've shut themselves down from everything and everyone around them. Their best way of receiving treatment was to link up their brains to a computer simulation that would eventually work them through their issues... Unfortunately, it seems like some patients were able to figure out what was going on and had found a way to take over Mobius, or Muse, and turn the simulation into their own personal playground. Basically, if Neo took the red pill but decided to go and fuck around in the Matrix, like some kind of demigod.

However, others are starting to realize what they've found themselves in... and either want out or want to go against what these "Musicians" want from them... Which I guess is to stay in their lane and let them have all of the power..?

I can only guess, but I think My best guess is that Mifue suffered from some kind of severe eating disorder brought on by the fact that her own mother was extremely overweight. It could be that she was also obese, but that isn't 100% clear to me. My guess as to why her "mother" originally appeared to be suffering from an eating disorder was because Mifue didn't want to look at her obese mother anymore, and so Muse turned her into that sickly skinny woman. When that had the opposite effect, in that Mifue was fine with having a thin mother, but not one that was just as obsessed with her staying thin, she wanted to change again which was why Muse showed up to correct her error... Unfortunately, it seems that at this point Mifue had started catching onto this whole charade.

Now as to why I think Mifue may have been fat as well..? Her mother said it herself, "You can eat whatever you want without gaining weight." In the simulation, Mifue can binge on whatever she wanted without getting fat, like SweetP.

I'm really excited to see if I'm right about this, and if I am, on why the rest of the cast is in Mobius. If the weird glitch in episode one was any indication, I'm guessing that the protaganist was suicidal..?










Great episode. That tea party reminded me of 18if.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35248/18if









I can't get over the aesthetics of this show. That entire tea party scene was something. I liked when things took a more halloween look. Characters so are interesting, so I'm looking forward to what other flaws and issues other characters have.









Well that was a strange ep, but guess it served its need in bringing the photo girl into the group. Looks like next ep we will be getting the explanation that we have been waiting for as to what is happening.









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